Join Fr. Anthony Dill and I for perhaps our nerdiest podcast yet. After reading David Kertzer's The Pope Who Would be King: The Exile of Pius IX and the Emergence of Modern Europe we discuss the ending of the 1100 year-old Papal States, Blessed Pius IX, and the beginning of the new nation called Italy. Sound esoteric and unrelatable? Well, maybe you're kind of right, but we'll see if we can find a few ways to learn from this crazy period of Church and world history...